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Antibiotics campaign

Post by chaggle » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:03 pm

This video is ubiquitous on UK tv at the moment...

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...but surely it is directed at the wrong audience. Doctors have to stop dishing them out like sweeties.
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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by Tony.Williams » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:43 pm

As I understand it, the problem is too many patients demanding that their doctors prescribe them, even for viruses. With only a few minutes allocated per patient, the temptation has been to give in to the demands so the patient goes away ignorantly happy, instead of having a stand-up row about it.

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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by chaggle » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:19 pm

Yes - probably. But it's pretty poor. I could handle it - just tell them how stupid they're being or something - I'm sure they'd understand.

Or why don't they dish out some homeopathy instead?

Seriously - if people are stupid enough to demand useless dangerous drugs then they'll probably accept useless non-dangerous drugs.

Just call them something scientiffiky like - um - Bacillusium 30c or some such nonsense and they'll never know.
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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by bindeweede » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:14 pm

An interesting addition to the debate?
Rise of ampicillin resistance began years before human use Likely triggered by overuse of penicillins in agriculture in the 1950s.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 094046.htm

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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by Tony.Williams » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:20 am

chaggle wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:19 pm
Or why don't they dish out some homeopathy instead?
Tempting (and probably more effective) to hand out placebos, but they run into medical ethics problems... :con

There's an interesting item in New Scientist concerning giving antibiotics via a new type of skin patch, which has lots of tiny needles. This apparently causes far fewer problems than taking it orally.

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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by Matt » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:21 pm

No ethical problems as far as I can tell, so long as you're not misleading patients.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... -sham-drug

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Re: Antibiotics campaign

Post by chaggle » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:27 pm

Doctor doesn't even need to say it's a placebo or contain no active ingredient.

He could give homeopathy (or any other placebo come to that) and simply (and truthfully) say that it will be exactly as effective as an antibiotic upon their flu/cold or whatever but without any side effects.

Can't see any problems with that..
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