Badger cull

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Re: Badger cull

Post by smudge » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:41 pm

True. But people are remarkably fond of (what many would describe as) cuddly animals. So there is potentially a political downside even if most people don't look at the matter very closely.
I think it might be more to do with the relative wealth and clout of the farming lobby.





Edit; I don't mean relative to badgers of course! :)

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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:42 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29030920

"Badger vaccination scheme under way outside bovine TB high risk areas"

This is unlikely to work as badgers are a small factor in the spread of TB amongst the cattle. Creating a buffer zone could only work if farmers stopped moving infected cattle around. It's almost as if they are setting up a deliberate fail so that they can kill more badgers instead.
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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:43 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30528559

"Fewer than half the target number of badgers were killed in this year's cull in Gloucestershire, Defra has announced. Figures released show 274 were culled by shooting or cage trapping in the county. The minimum target was 615."
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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:43 pm

Badger cull to be extended into Dorset, Government announces:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34084352

It has been a complete failure in two counties in both 2013 and 2014, so now they are going to try again, killing even more badgers over a larger area.

The stupid hurts.
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Re: Badger cull

Post by polomint38 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:44 pm

Croydon13013 wrote:Badger cull to be extended into Dorset, Government announces:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34084352

It has been a complete failure in two counties in both 2013 and 2014, so now they are going to try again, killing even more badgers over a larger area.

The stupid hurts.
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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:44 pm

"Three top scientists who lead the government’s research on badger control join experts condemning cull."

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... -programme
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Re: Badger cull

Post by smudge » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:45 pm

Croydon13013 wrote:"Three top scientists who lead the government’s research on badger control join experts condemning cull."

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... -programme
The intervention comes as figures reveal the government has spent nearly £7,000 killing each badger so far.
We could buy the Badgers a small island to live on for the combined total cost of this silliness.
Meanwhile, disabled people die because; 'austerity.' WTF.

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Re: Badger cull

Post by Tinkerbell » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:46 pm

Anti-badger cull protestors have been dismissed as people who need to 'get a life' by the area's Member of Parliament.
Ian Liddell-Grainger, MP for Bridgwater and West Somerset, said claims that the science did not back the continuation of the badger cull were 'complete rubbish'.
"I have no time or sympathy for these people and I couldn’t care less what they have to say. They do not live in the real world, and I really do not take them seriously. They need to get a life and get a job, they can stack shelves in ASDA for all I care," Mr Liddell-Grainger said.

"Instead I listen to my constituents who have to deal with this disease every single day."
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Re: Badger cull

Post by smudge » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:47 pm

Government refuses to release report into whether badger cull is a waste of money
DEFRA said it was 'in the public interest' not to tell the public whether the slaughter has been worth the cost
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Full article from the Independent.


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Re: Badger cull

Post by bindeweede » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:21 pm

An update.
The badger cull is to be extended again to more areas of the country despite the success of vaccine trials that could make further killing unnecessary, ministers have announced.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 76806.html

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Re: Badger cull

Post by Tony Williams » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:58 am

smudge wrote:
Government refuses to release report into whether badger cull is a waste of money
DEFRA said it was 'in the government's interest' not to tell the public whether the slaughter has been worth the cost
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Obvious typo fixed for you... :y

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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:29 pm

The cull continues:

Defra is expected to extend its badger cull to seven new parts of South West England to help control the spread of the disease at the end of this month.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36976774

A very inaccurate article. Probably deliberately so. This bit, for instance:

Scientists have known for 40 years that badgers transmit TB to cattle and, more recently, probably vice versa. But no one knows exactly how the disease is transmitted.

It is "Bovine" TB, not Badger TB. It has always been known that badgers catch it from cattle. There is no TB in badgers where there are no cattle.
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Re: Badger cull

Post by Tony.Williams » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:03 pm

I saw something on the news a few days ago casting doubt as to whether cattle get TB directly from badgers.

Found it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07m4d51

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Re: Badger cull

Post by Croydon13013 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:14 pm

This year's cull has begun. The biggest UK cull so far. Expected to cost more than £10m, over £1,000 per badger, of tax-payers money. Also expected to achieve nothing at all in terms of reducing bovine TB.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37220043
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Re: Badger cull

Post by Tony.Williams » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:01 pm

Ah, but they are showing the farmers' lobby that they are doing what they can. The fact that it has a dubious scientific justification and will be more or less ineffective in its results doesn't matter in electoral terms.

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