The top 20 moments that shaped the world - in pictures.

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The top 20 moments that shaped the world - in pictures.

Post by bindeweede » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:32 pm

Interesting in its own way, but wasn't a Sinclair ZX expensive, compared with a £300 laptop today?

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:32 pm

All of these are infinitely debatable, after all are these THE top 20? What about {this other thing I think is more important}, etc.

But there's one I really take issue with ...
4. The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948
At best one could say that plenty of decent people thought so at the time.
Or maybe that it should have been a moment that shaped the world.

I see zero evidence that it had any effect at all, at the time or since then.
Yes, that one.

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Post by chaggle » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:33 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:All of these are infinitely debatable, after all are these THE top 20? What about {this other thing I think is more important}, etc.

But there's one I really take issue with ...
4. The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948
At best one could say that plenty of decent people thought so at the time.
Or maybe that it should have been a moment that shaped the world.

I see zero evidence that it had any effect at all, at the time or since then.
4/20 on digital technology but the car doesn't even get a mention?
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Post by Tony Williams » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:34 pm

These are all from the 20th century, which presumably reflects the lack of historical education of the people they surveyed.

I am baffled as to how any such list could omit what was (IMO) the most important technological innovation of all in terms of its impact - the invention of the printing press.

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Post by Abdul Alhazred » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:34 pm

I figured they just meant the 20th century (and after).

The printing press?

How about the invention of writing?

Though there is no known "moment" for that one, and probably it happened independently more than once.
Yes, that one.

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Post by Tony Williams » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:35 pm

Abdul Alhazred wrote:I figured they just meant the 20th century (and after).
I looked, but I couldn't see any reference to that.
The printing press?

How about the invention of writing?

Though there is no known "moment" for that one, and probably it happened independently more than once.
Exactly - it wasn't a "moment" any more than was the development of language - both evolved over a very long period of time, in many places. The first printing press was however definitely a "moment".

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Post by Matt » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:36 pm

Along the same lines at the printing press movable type was quite a transformational moment.
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Post by polomint38 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:37 pm

I was going to say they missed the birth of Bindweede, who created this historical website, then I saw this quote, which explains why he is not mentioned.
Abdul Alhazred wrote:I figured they just meant the 20th century (and after).

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Post by Croydon13013 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:38 pm

polomint38 wrote:I was going to say they missed the birth of Bindweede, who created this historical website, then I saw this quote, which explains why he is not mentioned.
Abdul Alhazred wrote:I figured they just meant the 20th century (and after).
That's harsh. I'm pretty sure he was born in the 20th century. Before WW1 perhaps, but not THAT long ago!

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